INTERVIEWING:

MERY ANDRADE

For every scout out there, this is a very busy period. The NBA Summer League is one of the crucial moments of the offseason. So many executives, scouts, and agents are all in the same place, doing their work, analyzing the most recent draft picks, and watching those players who are still free agents and look for an opportunity to impress. 

For our second episode of Inside Scouting, we thought that it would have been great to have someone on board who could have explained the feeling of the NBA Summer League and how this period of the year represents a huge opportunity, not only for the players but also for coaches.

We’re proud to present you our interview with Mery Andrade, one of the few female assistant coaches in the NBA, who’s working for the Toronto Raptors and from Las Vegas she shared with us her Summer League experience, his path as a coach, and much more

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Q: “How would you describe the Summer League experience to someone who’s not particularly familiar with it? What kind of atmosphere do you feel when you’re there?” Mery Andrade: “It’s a beautiful experience, a really intense one but beautiful, both for the players and the coaches. For the players who were drafted, it’s the first real test to prove their value in front of the coaching staff, for the undrafted guys or the players who spent the season in Europe, it’s a test to find a new contract, so there’s pressure to deliver, because if you do well, it’s gonna be easier to find a new contract, but if you don’t perform well, your stocks might drop. So it’s also stressful, and the presence of agents and executives makes it even more stressful for the players. Of course, it’s also a very busy time for coaches. We have so many events and practices during the day. We do team work with the roster, but we also do individual sections with the veterans of the team. I work for the Raptors, so we do individual shoot-around with Scottie Barnes, for example. But there are also clinics arranged by the coach’s association and events arranged by the league itself. I have also WNBA events to attend, since I’m a former WNBA player. So it’s definitely a very busy period for all the people involved”. Q: “As a coach, during an event like the Summer League, which are the aspects that you look the most in a player? Is there a specific trait or attitude that you’re looking for in a player during an event like this one? On which characteristics do you focus the most?” Mery Andrade: “Contrary to what many agents and players think, we are not looking for the new Steph Curry or LeBron James, partly because most NBA teams already have those types of stars. What we try to figure out by observing a player in a setting like Summer League is whether that player can play the right way. Is he able to play effectively in a system with his teammates? Can he also play well without the ball? Is he also able to do the dirty work, to be aggressive on defense, to play hard? For example, for us, it is super important to understand whether the player can put a lot of pressure on the ball defensively. A lot of guys coming out of college have to understand that at the higher level, there is a different way of playing. So many in their colleges were stars or otherwise among the best players on the team, whereas at the next level, they have to adjust to a different role. The NBA is a very physical league, so one of the first things we try to see in these guys is just their ability to handle this different physicality. Can they be aggressive on the ball? Do they know how to rebound aggressively? Can they play at a higher level of intensity? If we notice that they already have this motor, this predisposition to a certain kind of intensity, everything else comes later. Because if they already have this ability to handle the physicality and intensity of a league like the NBA, that’s already more than half the job. Of course, then you also look at attitude, for example how they handle pressure on the court, especially in the most delicate moments, and how they behave off the court because in a city like Las Vegas it’s extremely easy to get distracted by other aspects. These are also things that matter a lot. Talking as a guest speaker at some league events, I always say it: don’t give teams a reason not to pick you. Because NBA teams already have a very large pool of players from which to choose, so they often look for aspects that will exclude a player: an unprofessional attitude, a shallowness, a lack of interest. All of these are aspects that can get you out of the league very quickly”. Q: “You’re now working for the Toronto Raptors after spending a few years working for the New Orleans Pelicans. Can you share with us how the recruiting process with Toronto went? Who was the first person who reached out to you? How would you describe the whole process?” Mery Andrade: : “I worked for four years in New Orleans, mainly with the G League franchise, and before I even started with New Orleans I had taken a course organized specifically for former NBA and WNBA players that gives you the tools, not so much tactical but more technical, especially in terms of using softwares, to work in the coaching world. After four years in New Orleans, I felt I had achieved my goals there and was looking for a change. I had interviewed for head coach of the Milwaukee Heard, the G League team affiliated with the Milwaukee Bucks when I was still working for the Pelicans. Then I started sending my resume around a little bit to those teams that might be interested, and one of them was the Boston Celtics. I did the Summer League with the Celtics and one of the members of their front office told me that the Raptors were looking to change things internally and they were also looking for a woman coach. When I was about to finish Summer League with the Celtics I was contacted by Darko Rajakovic, the Raptors coach, who asked me if I would like to talk about a possible role with them. So a few days later I talked to Darko and the Raptors’ GM, Masai Ujiri. It all happened in a few days, and it was a proposal that intrigued me a lot because the Raptors were rebuilding and I was eager to learn everything from how to rebuild to how to get to a title. For my professional growth, I think Toronto was the best choice, although in Boston maybe I could have won the title (laughs, ed.). I am always very confident that what I deserve will come sooner or later”. Mery Andrade at Reyer Venezia Q: “You are one of the few women on a coaching staff in the NBA, in an environment normally dominated by men. From your perspective, where does the league stand in terms of opportunities for women? Do you think the situation has improved from the past? Do you think it’s only a matter of time before we get to a situation where a woman can become head coach of an NBA franchise?” Mery Andrade: : “As in all things I think it’s just a matter of time. One of the main characteristics of us women, one of our best qualities is our persistence in achieving what we want. We have to be patient and keep showing the good work we can do. Only through work can we achieve something that, in fact, would be rightfully ours. Because so many times I hear the criticism, “You only got this job because you’re a woman,” and of course, it’s a criticism that comes from a man in most cases. I, in some ways, can even come to understand such a criticism but I could easily counter it by saying that for years and years, many men got their jobs just because they were men and not because they were the best at their jobs. Now the doors for women are opening a little bit more but if they had opened earlier, there would have been a lot more women in this job, because there are a lot of extremely capable ones who for so many years simply did not have a chance in this world. I have been preparing for years and continuing to try to improve myself as a coach even if such an opportunity might arise because the only way for us is just to be super prepared so that we do an excellent job when the opportunity comes”. Q: “As a former WNBA player, how do you evaluate the evolution of the league in recent years? There’s definitely been more attention and more coverage from the media, but financially speaking it doesn’t look like the players are at a level that can be considered satisfying. Most of the WNBA players still go to play overseas, once the WNBA season is over, to make more money. What do you think it can be done to improve the situation?” Mery Andrade: : “The league has grown from the time I was playing. In my time in the WNBA, you often got paid exclusively in bonuses based on goals accomplished, there wasn’t even a real salary, so you were basically forced to go play in Europe once the WNBA season was over. The last CBA definitely improved the situation, especially in terms of rights for the players. The next big battle for the next CBA will be to get a greater percentage of the revenue that comes in from TV rights and merchandising sales. In the NBA, in fact, the division of those revenues now is in favor of the players, who get 51 percent compared to 49 percent for the owners, while in the WNBA the situation is still clearly in favor of the owners, who keep 70 percent of the revenue, leaving only 30 percent for the players. As you were saying, now there is more attention from the media but also from the fans, so many games are sold out, but players’ salaries are still at a low level, so this needs to be changed. This is not just an economic issue. If female players started earning more in the WNBA, they could also play more, because they wouldn’t have to play all year to earn money abroad. So it’s also about protecting the players’ health. Even I, during my career, at one point, chose to play only in Italy, because if I had continued to play in both the WNBA and Europe, my knee would not have held up and my career would have been shorter”.
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Q:”Recently, there was sort of a revolution in the college basketball world thanks to the opportunity for schools to pay the athletes through the NIL deals. We’re already seeing some of the effects of this change, with more players going from Europe to the NCAA. What do you think of this change and how do you believe it’s gonna impact also the NBA?” Mery Andrade: : “I think it was an inevitable choice, partly because it was common knowledge that several colleges, under the table, were already paying players. But before it was an illegal practice and so everything had to be done secretly, but now it is a system that has been institutionalized. It was only a matter of time before it happened. The accelerating element, in my opinion, was the creation of the Ignites in the G League. A team made specifically to recruit the best talent coming out of high school and offer them an alternative path from college. Before, the best prospects coming out of high school had no choice; they pretty much all went to college. But the problem was that the schools, through sponsors, made millions of dollars but the kids were left with virtually nothing. Whereas with the creation of the Ignites in the G League, a kid coming out of high school could be offered a real contract, leading him to earn as much as half a million dollars, an extremely large amount of money for such a young kid. So the universities had to find a remedy, hence the decision to approve NIL deals and other forms of payment for players. Now schools can offer such deals that many kids would be better off staying in college as much as possible, because maybe in the G League or even on a two-way contract in the NBA they wouldn’t earn the same amount of money as they do in college. With this move, basically, the NCAA has turned into the third American professional league; before there was only NBA and G League, but now there is also the NCAA. Because with the NIL deals now the universities work like real clubs, it’s a structure that has created jobs very similar to that of an NBA franchise, some figures are very close to that of a GM in Italy or Europe”

Q: “You have spent many years playing in Europe, especially in Italy. What kind of suggestion would you give to someone who’s about to have his first experience playing overseas? What kind of mental approach do they need to have to get the best possible experience playing overseas?” Mery Andrade:: “All players, male and female, have a dream: to play in the NBA or WNBA. But each of us has a different path to get to our dreams. If someone doesn’t make it to the NBA or WNBA on their first try, they shouldn’t see Europe as a failure or a punishment, it’s all part of a path that you have to keep following to get to the dream. It all depends on the situation, I believe that in several cases going to play in a EuroLeague team is better than playing in the G League, because you play with very experienced players and because you get to enrich your playing style, as the NBA is taking more and more tactical elements from Europe. Another aspect to consider is that there are so many scouts in Europe, so there is not even the worry of not being seen by NBA teams, there are many more NBA scouts in Europe than in the United States. There are now a lot of players who go to Europe, hone their game there for a few seasons, and then come to the NBA, without needing to go through the G League. Basketball is changing, and that’s what the players need to understand, and their agents need to be able to make their clients understand it as well. The style of play is changing, and what teams are looking for in players is changing, it is not like in the past when there was always a distrust of Europe and players coming from the old continent. It is changing the style of play, it is changing the characteristics that teams are looking for in players, it is not like in the past when there was always a distrust of Europe and players coming from the old continent. If we look at the last NBA MVPs, they have always been European players in recent years”.

Q: : “Do you have a specific goal for your future? What’s the next step in your career that you want to reach? Mery Andrade: : “I definitely want to coach at the highest level possible, and I want to continue to improve and learn. Now in the NBA I am in the second row of the bench, one of my goals is definitely to get to the front row. Another one of my big goals is to coach a national team. I will continue to work and put myself in a position to be prepared if such opportunities come. I remain confident that the work I have done so far will help me make sure that these opportunities will come”.

Q: “Basketball in Portugal has never been the most well-known or most popular sport, but from your perspective do you believe there’s been progress in the Portuguese basketball movement in recent years? And where do you believe there’s still room to improve?” Mery Andrade: : “I think there has been growth in recent years. Although I spend a lot of time in Italy when I’m not in the United States, I still stay in touch with coaches, agents, and players in Portugal, I also do clinics. From what I can see the federation seems more involved in the process of growing the movement, something that was not very present when I was playing. They do a lot of events for younger people, as early as minibasket to instill the culture of basketball in children as well. Last year I had the opportunity to be present at the basketball festival that took place in Albufeira, a beautiful event with a lot of young people present. The key is really to be able to attract as many young people as possible, so from that point of view I am optimistic. Of course, there is still a lot of work to be done to increase the level, most importantly we have to be able to offer a league that is more attractive to players, leading them to stay more in the country, because so many go to play in Spain or France or go to college in the United States. If we can have a more competitive league, it will also be easier to retain the best domestic players”.